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  Attention Born in Lurkers

  by stuckinamovement in

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  do you feel that something has changed within god's organization?

  have you noticed that in the past several years there has been a more authoritarian spirit displayed in the publications and from the platform?

  i am in the beginning stages of a fade away and wanted to express my thoughts.

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  JW GoneBad

  stuckinamovement: Good Point.

  An alarm bell that has been ringing (there have been many) in my head for a long time has to do with the amount of speculation the JW leadership has done over the years.

  For a society that prides itself in following Bible principles and being led by God's Holy Spirit, they certainly have done their part of 'going beyond the things that written' and have failed to follow the advice of Prov. 30:6 ...'Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a L-I-A-R'.
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  heard this today from a reliable source.

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  JW GoneBad

  Hmmm! Just doing a little detective work here.

  If Barr joined the GB in 1977, that means he may have authored or had something to do with the expression .... "A simple 'Hello' to someone can be the first step that develops into a conversation and maybe even a friendship. Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshiped person?" (KEEP YOURSELVES IN GOD'S LOVE pg 207).

  That expression first appears in the Watchtower of Sept 15, 1981 pg 25 ('Disfellowshipping-How To View It'). Barr had already been a GB member for about 5 or 6 years when that article was written.

  Some may wonder ...'Whats' the big deal with that expression in those articles?'

  Its' just that the expression itself fosters and further encourages the hatred and cold shoulder treatment toward tens of thousands who otherwise should be forgiven of sin (especially if repentant) as Jesus said. And 'loving' Bro. Barr could very well have been a party to that expressions' authorship (IMO a very mean spirited phrase).
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  heard this today from a reliable source.

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  JW GoneBad

  Jookbeard: I share your view. Barr, if anything else, is guilty by association!

  I also wonder how many articles he authored that promoted this organizations' false teachings.

  As an example: I wonder if he had anything to do with the words....... "A simple 'Hello' to someone can be the first step that develops into a conversation and maybe even a friendship. Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshiped person?" (KEEP YOURSELVES IN GOD'S LOVE pg 207)

  Not only is this a misinterpretation of 2John 9-11, it is also mean spirited. He may not have been the one that authored this expression, but his allowing it definitely makes him guilty by association!
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  KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights

  by XBEHERE in

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  besides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.

  1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.

  their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.

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  JW GoneBad

  Thank you Yknot and the 'kind Conscious Class JW' for the 'HOW PARENTS CAN PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN FROM MISUSE OF BLOOD' handout. It apparently is not intended the the R & F. Made a copy for my files.
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  What the WT requires for reinstatement

  by sabastious in

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  it's creepy that they require you to "study" for all meetings and show that you "underlined" to get reinstated.. think about that for a second.

  before they let you back in they make you prove that you have been at least partially re-indoctrinated.. i mean, in the end, what does "underlining" really prove?

  true repentance?

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  JW GoneBad

  OUTLAW:

  Sad but true!
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  What the WT requires for reinstatement

  by sabastious in

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  it's creepy that they require you to "study" for all meetings and show that you "underlined" to get reinstated.. think about that for a second.

  before they let you back in they make you prove that you have been at least partially re-indoctrinated.. i mean, in the end, what does "underlining" really prove?

  true repentance?

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  JW GoneBad

  Sabastious: Good Topic!
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  What the WT requires for reinstatement

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
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  it's creepy that they require you to "study" for all meetings and show that you "underlined" to get reinstated.. think about that for a second.

  before they let you back in they make you prove that you have been at least partially re-indoctrinated.. i mean, in the end, what does "underlining" really prove?

  true repentance?

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  JW GoneBad

  What the WT requires for reinstatement:

  The JC makes the 'wrongdoer' jump thru hoops! I know of some who have had to submit 4,5 & as many as 6 letters requesting reinstatement.

  In most cases I know of; high on the list of 'works befitting repentance' that the JC was looking for involved 100% meeting attendance, unless you had a legitimate excuse for being absent (a call to the chairman on the JC was a must) and yes........ that your lessons were studied!

  It always made me wonder how serious the wrongdoing had been.

  That is what many call 'Abuse Of Power'. And it continues!
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  heard this today from a reliable source.

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  JW GoneBad

  Red Piller:

  I meant to thank you earlier for the info. on Barrs' passing away. It's nice to be a part of something where you can news 'hot off the press'.
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  heard this today from a reliable source.

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  JW GoneBad

  Barr may be remembered by many as kind, loving, approachable, friendly........... yada yada yada!

  But like the rest of the GB (living or dead) he was also a......... SPECULATOR! Not once did he apologize for being wrong and misleading the rank & file. He along with the rest of the GB have an ongoing track record of 'going beyond the things that are written' (1Cor 4:6). For that he should also be remembered!
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  GB Member Barr dies

  by Red Piller in

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  JW GoneBad

  JRK:

  'Now the overlapping begins.'

  Good point!

  The appointing of the younger GB members is not the Holy Spirit's doing. Just a strategic move by imperfect business minded men heading a corporation/organization. These appointments will (possibly) enable them to save face & to further their cause..........$$$$$$$.